September, 07 2006
Gas explosion traps 53 in Jharkhand coal mine
At least 53 miners are trapped inside a mine of Nagda Colliery of Coal India Limiteds subsidiary Bharat Coking Coal Ltd at Bhatdih in Jharkhand. 4 persons managed to come out as rescue team rushed inside the mine.
As per reports the gas leakage started immediately after the miners blasted for mining at around 9 PM and resulted in fire inside the mine.
RINL announces price hike for long products
Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Limiteds Visakhapatnam Steel Plant has announced a slight increase in the prices of some of its products with immediate effect citing higher demand.
The per ton increases announced are as under
| Wire Rods 5.5 to 14 mm | Rs 200 |
| EQ Wire Rods | Rs 800 |
| Re bars | Rs 200 |
| Pig Iron | Rs 800 |
ISMT to install a new seamless tube mill
Indian Seamless Metal Tubes has awarded a turnkey contract for supply of a new seamless tube plant employing the premium quality finishing technology at Baramati works in India. The scope of work also includes project management, supervision of erection & commissioning and training of the operating personnel.
ISMT will use the new mill to produce seamless tubes in the diameter range from 33.7 mm up to 168.3 mm with a planned capacity of 350,000 tonnes per year.
FIMI urges PM to continue iron ore exports
It is reported that the Federation of Indian Mineral Industries in a letter to the Prime Minister has urged for the continuation of exports for at least 10 more years. A ban would also result in revenue loss to state governments. The letter pointed out that ban would make the infrastructure created unusable and send a negative signal to foreign investors and undo the Hoda Committees recommendations.
Mr RK Sharma secretary general of FIMI told FE that If the present market mechanism is disturbed, it will lead not only to gradual demise of stand alone non captive miners but also unemployment of one million persons engaged directly or indirectly in mining operations.
This move has come due to the recent gain in momentum in the move of banning export of iron ore by Indian steel makers.
FIMI represents Indian non fuel mining and mineral processing industries.
Hoda committee report review likely to hot up
Against the backdrop intervention by Prime Ministers office and formation of a committee of secretaries to look into the issues raised by the steel industry and the Hoda report, it is reported that the sole representative of steel sector in Hoda committee never agreed for continuation of iron ore exports.
As per reports Mr B Muthuraman MD of TATA Steel, who was the sole representative in the Hoda committee, sent a letter last month to Mr Anwarul Hoda the plan panel member complaining that the final report was not circulated to members for their concurrence.
As per reports, Mr Muthuraman never agreed with the report's view that there was no need to place curbs on iron ore exports and that the matter will be revisited after 10 years. His letter said that the Hoda report seems to be grounded in the assumption that iron ore exports would not hurt domestic industry by basing their projections about the future needs of Indian industry on the basis of current consumption. The recommendations seem based on the premise that there is enough ore reserves to last 100 years, based on current consumption projections.
Mr Muthuraman pointed out that the mineable quantity is just 9 billion tonnes of hematite and 6 billion tonnes of magnetite. With the Indian economy growing at 8%, this could last as little as 40 years.
Essar selects ABB for motors & drives for its plate mill
It is reported that ABB will develop and supply low voltage and medium voltage motors and drive systems for a plate mill being installed at Essar Groups Hazira Plate Ltd, which is scheduled to begin operation in early 2008.
Mr Veli-Matti Reinikkala head of ABBs process automation division said With our knowledge of power and automation solutions we are helping Asian customers to achieve new levels of productivity and energy efficiency.
Mr Thomas Johansson VP of ABB's Center of Excellence for Hot Rolling Mills in Sweden said By combining standard ABB products with specialized expertise and in depth understanding of the very high demands in Rolling Mill application, we have gained a strong position in the market.
International Coal Congress at New Delhi in mid December
International Coal Congress and Expo 2006 will be held in New Delhi in India from December 11th to December 13th of 2006. The theme of the Congress is Sustainable Development of Coal for energy security.
The Indian National Committee of World Mining Congress will be hosting the 87th meeting of the International Organizing Committee at New Delhi in the above three days. The IOC meeting will witness the assemblage of global leaders of coal industry
The Congress and Expo will be supported by the union ministries of coal, power, mines, steel, petroleum & natural gas, science & technology, environment & forest and planning commission.
Essar to restructure to get global edge Report
Essar group, which has interests in steel, oil, shipping and telecom, is reported to be planning to delist its three main companies from Indian stock exchanges and create a three tier structure with an internationally listed holding company likely to be called Essar Global. As per reports Essar has appointed Ernst and Young to work out the organizational structure.
As per reports, Essar Global will have three holding companies Essar Steel Holdings, Essar Shipping Holdings and Essar Oil Holdings under it.
It is believed that a holding company with diversified interests will be more valuable in international equity and debt markets.
Promoters of the Essar group Ruia family own 76% of Essar Steel, 47% of Essar Shipping and a majority stake in Essar Oil.
The report however mentions denial of such move by Essar spokesperson.
NTPC facing roadblocks in developing coal blocks
National Thermal Power Corporation is facing major roadblocks in undertaking captive mining although it has been allocated 8 coal blocks this year. As per reports NTPC has been facing delays in land acquisition for the blocks and in the rail linkages for coal evacuation.
NTPC highlighted the problems to planning commission in a presentation that there has been inordinate delay in the issue of notification for acquisition of land under the Coal Bearing Areas Act. NTPC has also expressed concerns on the tight schedule of the rail link between Benadag to Koderma via Hazaribag for coal evacuation from Pakri Barwadih, Chatti Baraitu and Kerandhari coal blocks.
NTPC plans to invest about Rs 10,000 crore for producing 50 million tonnes of coal annually by 2013.
Suzlon to supply 50 wind turbines to Edison Mission Group
Indian wind power turbine major Suzlon Energy Ltd's has bagged an order to supply 50 wind turbines to Edison Mission Group for $104 million. Suzlon would start delivering turbines in the middle of next year.
The deal was signed by Suzlon Wind Energy Corp US, a unit of the company's Denmark based subsidiary.
NTPC takes over Muzaffarpur Thermal Power Station
As per the decision of the Indian government, National Thermal Power Corporation has taken over the Muzaffarpur thermal power station on September 6th 2006. This acquisition has been done under the name and style of Vaishali Power Generating Company.
Muzaffarpur Thermal Power Station having 2 x 110 MW turbines is a JV between NTPC and Bihar State Electricity Board. NTPC shall initially hold 51% of equity capital and the balance equity shall be subscribed by the government of Bihar and its state electricity board.
Kalindee Rail to lay rail tracks at Vedanta Orissa
Kalindee Rail Nirman Engineers announced that it has bagged a Rs 53 crore contract from Vedanta Alumina for a project to build a railway track at Vedanta's alumina plant at Jharsuguda in Orissa in Orissa.
IMF sees metal prices fall by 45% average in 5 years
International Monetary Fund, in its latest briefing on the world's economic outlook, said that the trend for metals prices in the medium term is to fall an average of 45% thus ending the high cycle that began around 2002. It said that the price of copper is expected to fall some 49% in real terms and aluminum prices will drop 31% within the next 5 years.
The report said that Although investors have played a key roll in providing liquidity to metals markets, there is little evidence that speculative investments have been a significant driver of non fuel commodity price movements."
Mr Raghuram Rajan economic counselor with IMF said that the imminent slowdown of the US economy and subsequently its metals demand is an important factor in the expected drop in metals prices although world metals demand should remain high due to China's rapid growth.
According to the IMF the world's consumption of copper has grown 3.8%, nickel by 3.6%, steel 9.2%, aluminum 7.6%, lead 4.3% and zinc 3.8%, while global GDP equivalent has grown 4.8% during 2002 to 2005 and China contributed close to a 50% increase in net world demand of aluminum, copper and steel since 2002.
Strike reported at Venezuela's Sidor steel plant
El Nacional newspaper has reported that 5,000 workers of Venezuelan steel maker Sidor and 3,000 employees of suppliers stopped work on Tuesday afternoon and blocked major streets in the southeastern city of Puerto Ordaz over a contract dispute and the arrest in late August of 5 union leaders.
El Nacional reported that Mr Pedro Hernandez a representative for a local steel industry association said that a 24 hour strike would generate losses of approximately $3 million.
Mr Pedro Lopez a spokesman for Sidor declined to comment on the strike and it was unclear whether Sidor plants had resumed operations.
Formerly owned by the Venezuelan government, Sidor was privatized in 1997. The government still holds a stake in the company along with Argentine industrial conglomerate Techint, Mexican Hylsamex SA, Venezuela's privately owned Sivensa and Brazilian Usiminas.
ADB increases Chinese GDP growth forecast to 10.4%
The Asian Development Bank raised its forecast for China's economy growth this year from 9.5% to 10.4%. China's economy grew a faster than expected 10.9% in the first half of 2006 building on 10.2% growth in 2005 the fastest in a decade.
Mr Ifzal Ali chief economist of ADB said in a statement "The economy posted very rapid growth in the first half with fixed asset investments, exports, and imports all rising significantly from a year earlier. Even with an interest rate increase in mid August that followed earlier monetary and administrative tightening measures, we expect second half cooling to be modest. Our concern is that if the current investment boom continues, it could result in chronic overcapacity."
ADB noted that the acceleration in growth in the first half has heightened concerns about overcapacity in some industries and the possibility of a painful pullback in economic activity.
Investment spearheaded the country's growth in the first half, with fixed asset investment surging 29.8%YoY. Exports grew 25.2% from a year earlier, while imports rose by 21.3%, resulting in a $61.4 billion trade surplus for the first half.
EU to rule on CVRDs offer for Inco on October 5th
European regulators intend to make a ruling on Companhia Vale do Rio Doce's takeover bid for nickel giant Inco Ltd by October 5th 2006.
CVRD's offer was given clearance from competition authorities in the United States and Canada on September 1st. Inco also announced on September 5th that its shareholders rejected a C$17.5 billion cash and stocks offer from Phelps Dodge Corp.
Inco had originally planned a 3 way friendly merger with Phoenix based Phelps Dodge and Toronto based Falconbridge Ltd. In July, Falconbridge shareholders rejected that plan.
Renova to invest $1 billion in manganese project in SA
Mr Viktor Vekselberg's Renova would spend $1 billion over the 5 years on a manganese project in South Africa. Renova planned to build a manganese mine in the Kalahari Desert and would construct a smelter at the port of Ngqura. The plant would have an initial capacity of 150 000 tons.
Mr Mark Buzuk chairman of Renova Investment unit said "The investment program of Renova is $1 billion. It is a 5year program. The money will be used to build a mine, a smelter, infrastructure and buy some new assets." Mr Buzuk did not elaborate on the planned acquisitions.
Mr Vekselberg is Russia's 4th richest man with a personal fortune estimated at $10 billion by Forbes magazine. Renova controls Sual Group which is Russia's 2nd biggest aluminium producer, and owns gold mines in the Russian Far East.
Mr Roland Junck unveils members of management committee
Further to the announcement of management board of merged Arcelor-Mittal on 4th August, Mr Roland Junck CEO of Arcelor Mittal has vide a news letter unveiled list of the members of the management committee for the new Arcelor Mittal. The Management Committee will comprise 24 senior executives, including the six members of the Group Management Board.
The additional members and their responsibilities are
Mr Roeland Baan CEO Tubes & Pipes, South Africa
Mr Gilles Biau Human Resources Group Co-Head
Mr Alain Bouchard Head of Purchasing worldwide
Mr Jose Armando Campos CEO Flat South America
Mr Narendra Chaudhary CEO Asia CIS
Mr Christophe Cornier CEO Flat Europe
Mr Philippe Darmayan CEO Arcelor Mittal Steel Solutions & Services
Mr Bernard Fontana CEO Automotive Worldwide
Mr Jean-Yves Gilet CEO Stainless
Mr Sudhir Maheshwari Head of Finance, M&A
Mr Carlo Panunzi CEO Long Americas
Mr Michael Pfitzner Head of Commercial Co-ordination
Mr Gerhard Renz CEO Long Europe
Mr Mike Rippey CEO USA
Mr Lou Schorsch CEO Flat Americas
Mr Bill Scotting Head of Continuous Improvement
Mr Andre Van Den Bossche Head of Marketing
Mr Inder Walia Human Resources Group Co-Head
All members of the management committee will hold the position of executive VP.
As per the release, the management committee plays a critical role in the company, taking responsibility for four main areas:
1. Discussing and preparing Group decisions on transversal matters
2. Integrating the geographical dimension of the company
3. Ensuring in-depth discussions with Arcelor operational and resources leaders
4. Sharing information about the situation of the Group and its environments
KRC & Inco plan nickel project in Finland
The state run Korea Resource Corporation in a 45:55 JV with Canadian nickel producer Inco has begun exploration to assess the amount of nickel and copper deposits at Inari in Finland and plan to launch a joint nickel and copper development project.
KRC said in a statement "We're expecting significant results from the project as we believe there is some 400 million tons worth of mineral deposits in the region."
Kinsteel proposes acquisition of 51% equity in Perwaja Steel
Malaysian Kinsteel Berhad announced that it has proposed acquisition of 51% equity interest in Perwaja Steel Sdn Bhd comprising 620,252,159 ordinary shares of RM1.00 each in PSSB from Equal Concept Sdn Bhd for a purchase consideration of RM197.6 million to be satisfied in the following manner
- The issuance of 60.0 million new ordinary shares of RM1.00 each in the Company at an issue price of RM1.36 per Company's share
- Cash settlement for the remaining balance of RM116.0 million payable in 67 equal monthly installments of RM1,705,883 each
- One final installment of RM1,705,839, commencing upon the completion of the proposed strategic alliance.
VSA asks to approve steel projects with new technology only
Vietnamese experts and Vietnam Steel Association have asked state management authorities to consider steel projects carefully before licensing them because some projects have suspiciously low investment costs. Experts have pointed out that the investors may be thinking of using outdated technology that is no longer used in other countries to build these low investment cost steel mills.
As per reports numerous steel projects are waiting to be licensed so they can set up units in Vietnam and include some low investment capital requirements. It seems that some of the projects envisage $200 to $400 investment per tonne of steel capacity as against industry benchmark of almost $1000 per tonnes.
Mr Dinh Huy Tam secretary general of the Vietnam Steel Association said that modern furnaces which have the capacity of 3,000 cubic metres and higher only consume 400 kilograms of coke for one tonne of hot metal, while outdated furnaces will consume 800 kilograms. Besides, the furnaces with outdated technology will severely damage the environment.
It is expected that by 2010, the demand for finished steel in Vietnam will reach 10 million tonnes a year and to tap this potential a flurry of investment proposals have been submitted for approval by both domestic as well as overseas companies.
UK Coal returns to profit in H1
UK Coal has returned to profitability in the first half of 2006 by posting a pretax profit of 7 million stg as compared to a 30.5 million stg loss a year earlier. Its coal sales were up by 19% in the period to 5.7 million tonnes with selling prices was up by 7% at 1.39 stg per GJ. Power generation made a profit of 1.5 million stg during H1 up from 1.2 million in H1 of 2005 and property net rental income was 1.4 million stg unchanged from last year.
UK Coal said the turnaround in performance was due to management action in reorganizing its deep mining business which it said is now capable of profitability even at the current contracted prices.
However UK Coal warned that its coal output in the second half will be lower than expected at an estimated 4.5 million tonnes.
Kazakhstan to increase coal production to 100 million tonnes
Kazakhstan plans to increase the production of coal to 100 million tonnes per annum. Kazakhstan produced 86.4 million tonnes of coal in 2005 and has already produced 45 million tonnes in the first half of 2006.
Mr Bolat Akchulakov vice minister of energy and mineral resources, at the first Eurasian Energy Forum of Kazakhstan told correspondents that "Presently Kazakhstan occupies the 8th position in the world on proven reserves of coal with coal reserves amounting to 35 billion tonnes.
SDI to install a new section mill at Columbia City
Steel Dynamics Incs Structural and Rail Division at Columbia City in Indiana has placed an order for the supply of a new medium section mill with an annual capacity of 600,000 short tons to significantly expand its product range. The mill will be operated in parallel with the existing heavy beam and rail mill and is scheduled for the end of 2007.
The new mill is designed for an extensive rolling program that includes beams, channels and angles. The main product size range lies between 3 (76 mm) and 14 (356 mm), although beams of up to 18 (457 mm) can also be produced. By extending the existing casting equipment, the new plant can be expanded to a capacity of 1 million short tons per year and is designed for a future production of flats.
The plant consists of 15 continuously arranged roll stands, flying shears, a rake type cooling bed, an 8 roller straighteners, cold saws for cutting the sections to finished lengths and automatic stacking, tying and loading facilities.
Peabodys update on 2006 performance
Peabody Energy announced that it is now targeting 2006 production of approximately 230 million tons, an increase of 7% over 2005 levels. The production target is at the low end of the original range of 230 to 240 million tons and reflects 4 to 5 million tons of lower third quarter shipments. The company expects record 2006 coal sales of 250 to 260 million tons, within 2% of targets at the beginning of the year.
As per Peabody, lower than targeted production primarily relates to new equipment problems, transportation shortfalls and the early closing of a third party coal supplier.
Mr Gregory H Boyce president and CEO said "Peabody's management is keenly focused on solving these near term supplier and transportation issues. Overall, Peabody is performing very well. Long term industry fundamentals are strengthening, and we look forward to record performance for 2006, 2007 and beyond."
Peabody Energy is the world's largest private-sector coal company, with 2005 sales of 240 million tons of coal and $4.6 billion in revenues. Its coal products fuel approximately 10% of all US and 3% of worldwide electricity.
Nichia and Sumitomo to integrate 3 subsidiaries
Japanese major special steel wire makers Nichia Steel Works and Sumitomo Electric Industries announced that they agreed on business integration of 3 subsidiaries, Kokoku Kosensaku of Nichia Steel, Kanto Kosen and Metax of Sumitomo Electric. The 3 subsidiaries will be integrated in April 2007.
Nichia Steel Works will hold over 50% investment share to the integrated company. The sales of the new company are estimated to be 16 billion yen per year and the production to be 66,000 tonnes per year with 2 production bases in Kaiduka area near Osaka and Utsunomiya area near Tokyo.
Thyssen Krupp signs MoU for a coating line in Kazakhstan
ThyssenKrupp and Kazyna Sustainable Development Fund have signed a MoU to study setting up of a rust proof and alloy treated steel production line in Kazakhstan.
Mr Kairat Kelimbetov chairman of Kazyna announced it at a press conference that it is decided to draft a master plan in order to study demand, primary resources and prospects for initiating production on the territory of Kazakhstan.
South Korean regulators to review Arcelor Mittal merger
South Koreas corporate regulator Fair Trade Commission announced that it is examining the merger between the worlds top two steel makers Arcelor and Mittal Steel to determine its effects on the South Korean domestic market.
FTC said that local representatives of Mittal Steel requested a review of its merger with Arcelor.
Under current law, mergers by foreign companies that do business in South Korea must be checked for potential monopolistic influence on the local market.
Territory Iron signs iron ore haulage deal with Freight Link Pty
Territory Iron Ltd announced it has reached an agreement with Freight Link Pty Ltd under which Freight Link will provide services to carry iron ore to the port of Darwin along the Darwin to Adelaide rail line which is close to the Frances Creek mine. The agreement will be executed by the end of September 2006.
As per the release, the execution of the agreement will pave the way for ordering of the requisite rolling stock, which has an anticipated delivery time of 8 months. On this basis, it is expected that a startup date for railing iron ore will be July 2007. Shipping will follow one month later.
In order to meet this schedule, mining at Frances Creek is anticipated to commence in February 2007 with stockpiling of ore at the mine and rail. Freight Link will provide services to carry up to 1.5 million tonnes of iron ore annually between a new siding to be established on the existing line at a point some 15 kilometers from the Frances Creek project.
Baosteel leads in Chinese shipbuilding steel market
Baosteel has taken the lead for supply of shipbuilding quality plates over other Chinese mills such as Jinan Steel, Nanjing Steel, Anyang Steel and Anshan Steel which are also manufacturing shipbuilding steel plates.
The position of leadership was achieved through the setting up of a 5,000 mm wide and thick steel plate rolling mill in April 2005 having a capacity of 1.4 million tons which can produce high strength steel plates of up to 1200 Mpa tensile strength.
As per BaoSteel, this was supported by world class technology in smelting and production which enable the mill to guarantee welding and processing qualities in the steel plates manufactured.
Baosteel has also established a trading company specialized in sales of shipbuilding plates to provide better service to demanding SBQ segment and is now planning to go in for processing centers in partnership with shipbuilders.
Klkner admitted to the SDAX index of the Deutsche Bse
The international distribution company Klkner&Co will be admitted to the SDAX index of the Deutsche Bse in Frankfurt am Main as of September 18, 2006, following a regular revaluation of the share indexes.
In the latest stock market ranking used for preparing the index, the Klkner&Co share, with a free float of some 35%, achieved place 117 in terms of its market capitalization and place 83 in terms of its order book turnover. This good positioning prompted the promotion of the Klkner&Co share into the SDAX index of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange.
Dr Thomas Ludwig chairman of the Board of Management of Klkner&Co AG said "We are pleased that the positive performance of our share has been confirmed by its admission to the index. Our share will become even more attractive as a result".
Klkner&Co was founded 100 years ago by Mr Peter Klkner and is now one of the largest producer and independent steel and metal distributor in the European and North American markets combined. It has 240 distribution locations in 14 countries in Europe and North America. The company achieved sales of approximately Euro 5 billion in 2005 with around 10,000 employees.
Moldova resumes rail movement with CIS countries
It is reported that Moldova has resumed railway movement with CIS countries after 2 days interruptions, which started due to repair of a bridge and subsequent stoppage in traffic.
Mr Vasiliu Shova Moldovan minister for reintegration said "Following talks with the Ukrainian government, we agreed to resume the traffic of passenger trains and freight trains with export oriented goods via northern Moldova, in circumvention of the Trans Dniester Region. A decision was also taken to set up a group of experts to work out the question of resuming the passage of transit trains with goods from CIS countries to Romania via the Trans Dniester Region".
The suspension of the transit of trains via the Trans Dniester Region hampered the transportation of Russian and Ukrainian iron ore to Romania.
Qianjing to set up new SS mill in Hebei
It is reported that privately owned Hebei Qianjing Iron and Steel Group have announced plans to set up a new stainless steel mill in south of the province and the mill is expected to have a capacity of about 500, 000 tons annually at an investment of RMB795.9 million.
Construction of the mill started in July this year and it is expected to be completed by May next year.
First coal to olefin project in China
Chinas pharmaceutical giant, Sino Biopharmaceutical has announced the building of Chinas first coal to low carbon olefin project in Shaanxi province in a JV with the provincial government. Total investment in the project is in the region of RMB 5 billion ($ 628 million) and commercial production is expected to start in early 2007.
Mr Xie Bing chairman of the company said "The technology boasts low cost compared with the conventional method of extracting similar products from petroleum. It will be a new source of olefin and carries special economic value in light of the rising oil prices. The formation of JV not only sees us diversify our business into other fast growing areas, but will enable us to benefit from the relatively high growth and high yield coal refinery industry in China.
Arcelor Brasil among the 10 best Brazilian companies to work for
According to an annual survey published by Brazilian business magazine Guia Exame/Vocin August 2006 Arcelor Brasil is one of the 10 best companies to work for in Brazil. According to the publication, Arcelor Brasil is truly concerned with its employees' well-being.
Arcelor Brasil ranked sixth in a nationwide survey involving 268 corporations evaluated by the economic journal. The company's ranking portrays the thinking and feeling of its 9,083 employees, of which 900 were selected for the survey. Issues evaluated included professional career opportunities, investment in education, health and matters related to work safety and to social-environmental responsibility.
Republic appoints Mr Joseph A Kaczka as CFO
Republic Engineered Products Inc announced that Mr Joseph A Kaczka has become CFO effective September 1st 2006. Mr Kaczka had joined Republic Engineered Products Inc in December 2003 as VP finance.
Mr Kaczka was previously employed for more than 30 years with USS/KOBE Steel Co and its predecessor companies. From 1995 through 1997, Mr Kaczka was treasurer and from 1989 through 1995 he served as controller for USS/KOBE. Prior to that, he held various financial positions at USX locations in Pennsylvania, Alabama and Ohio.
Mr Jaime Vigil president and CEO of Republic said "We are pleased to expand Joe's role within Republic Engineered Products. Joe has substantial steel industry experience and we look forward to him continuing to bring outstanding financial vision to Republic as we strengthen our position in the marketplace."
Republic Engineered Products Inc is North America's leading supplier of special bar quality steel, a highly engineered product used in axles, drive trains, suspensions and other critical components of automobiles, off- highway vehicles and industrial equipment. It operates steelmaking centers at Canton and Lorain in Ohio and value added rolling and finishing facilities at Canton, Lorain and Massillon in Ohio, Lackawanna in New York, Gary in Indian and Hamilton in Ontario.
